just for the hell of it i started browsing thru a witness book.. its called "then is finished the mystery of god" (1969).
just opening it at random.... page 209, talking about the org in 1918:.
as the historic facts show, gods tremendous pre armaggedon work was by no means finished at that date as regards the sealing of the remainder of the 144000 spiritual israelites,and the later gathering of the numberless 'great crowd'.
Just think RF, if you had been living in those days with your present comments, you could have brought those insights to Rutherfords attention. Now, what do you think he would have done with you? Oh, excuse me, you would have been one of the anointed. Only anointed ones have that type insight. Maybe not, because he wouldn't want you to be President or try to usurp HIS authority. Presidential 'perks' were especially for him.
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Sorry DR, my left sock & shoe goes on first. Thought I'm right handed I have always favorod my left. Which is my favorite foot? Both, though I lead with my left. I should be using both as we should be using the left and right brain.
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suppose some higher intelligence did not make us what we are.
humanity is truly in control of it's entire destiny... however good, or bad, that may (yet) turn out to be.
that pleasantly frightening thought crosses your mind on occasion when your faith structure is challenged.. here are some things i'm guessing might be in store for the future (fyi: i'm an optimist):.
Slave camp, let's say you have everything paid off, house, etc. Now, sit around and see what happens when you don't pay ALL your taxes. What's the end result? A slave to a system.
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dakota tribal wisdom says that when you discover you are riding a dead horse, the best strategy is to dismount.
however, we often try other strategies with dead horses, including the following:.
1. buying a stronger whip.
Have you tried asking 'Ed' the talking horse or 'Francis' the talking mule? I pretty sure they won't give you 'bull-dung.'
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dakotared once said to yadirf, on april 3rd:.
incidentally, he's my god too!.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=24906&site=3&page=5.
Yardif, how about enlightening me as to where your coming from and going? I ask these questions because you seem to be shadow boxing on this forum.
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i'm just wondering here... .
i just got some e-mails from a dub about something i was to do - however - due to this flu - i missed it.
did this person ask if everything was okay?!
Lydia, why not confront them about their attitude. I mean, do they realize how insensitive they are? How can their attitude/conduct be like a light switch after you view Romans chapter 12? Why even Jesus said that if people do not respond to his message just wipe the dust off your feet and move on, but these people are insulting and inconsiderate, CHILDISH.
For a people that know a few passages of the scriptures they think they know it all. Why quick in jumping to conclusions? As the saying goes, like father like son.
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tonight, fox channel, bill o'riley made an indicting statement regarding the culpability and responsibility of the roam catholic church in moving priests around to new parrishes without disclosing their history of molestation.
riley is a roman catholic, and holds to his faith, but felt freedom to speak out against his church.
his guest, ray flynn, us ambassador to the vatican is also a roman catholic, and mr. flynn, while hopeful and appreciative that the chruch will move forward, shared sympathies with o'riley.
This is not the first time O'Reilly has had Ray Flynn on his show on the the same topic. You had to have seen the first show to understand his latest comments about pedophilia. Flynn came out fighting the first time and this time he gave an inch or two. This man is a devout Irish Catholic but he wasn't as outspoken as O'Reilly was, at least publicly.
I have this gut feeling that this pedophilia issue with the Church is a set-up for the witnesses. Many are not aware of such 'sick' behaviour being taken so lightly. As I have said in another post it is negligent and irresponsible on their part not to attend to this wicked problem. Yes, there were outright 'wicked' conduct on the part of the Israelites but it was taken care of. Something was done about it, but what has the org. done with pedophilia? I can't understand how they thought this 'evil' practice would never surface. It's here now and we just have to wait for public reaction after Dateline airs it. Will the people act violently towards the witnesses? Haters of JW will. This issue is fire-power for them.
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the listings below are a new offering from the watchtower website.
it seems the brothers have developed a real concern for putting up every article ever written about child abuse.
i appreciate this greatly as it helps the public to see the great deficiency of watchtower policy.
Thanks for your laborious work Bill. Yeah, why have they now posted these articles on their site? To give the impression to the R&F that their on top of things? Claim their innocence?
The question that needs asking is, why didn't they take care of this matter when it first started? The very fact that they have 23,720 child molesters on file means they were negligent and irresponsible. The numbers themselves condemn them. These 23,720 didn't spring up over night.
I got expelled for not 'attending meetings' during my judical hearing! How many others got expelled for lack of mercy and compassion and yet no mention of these sexual criminals 'freely' roaming in the presence of innocent children? Were there ever any notice of caution coming from the organization, elders and material for families to beware of pedophiles in the congregation?
So much for this obedience to Superior Powers that they tell us to follow when they withhold the names of these pedophiles which certain States require you report them!
I'm looking forward to the 'spin' that the org. is going to use for being purposely negligent and irresponsible.
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can't we invite her back, i miss her.. yerusalyim.
"vanity!
it's my favorite sin!".
I have made this comment more than once, that we all need to 'learn' to agree to disagree. Too many have the Org's. influnece still attached to them and that is control.
We fail to respect the opinions of others. So what if we don't see eye to eye, whom am I to think what's best for one and all? We fail to make allowances for one another. Some on this forum are too judgmental and need to back off. If we can't stand anyone, then why anger yourself by replying to their views? Then again, some enjoy making others miserable. The variety of views is what makes this forum interesting not getting on someone's nerves.
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this good advice from the watchtower has served me well,.
"by their fruits you will recognize them".
so the first thing i always check for in a woman is her melons.. a nice firm pair is always a good sign.
Francois, is it really the size or the motion in the ocean? Solomon did say, 'Let her breasts intoxicate you.' Do you think he knew what he was talking about, a man of 300 hundred wives and 700 concubines?
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